i have to ask, didn't healthcare pass on reconciliation by 51 votes? >> healthcare got 60 votes. >> i thought it was a -- when it came back it went on reconciliations by 51. >> not until after it passed by 60 votes. >> on the changes it passed by 51. anyway, it's a technical point. what you're saying is that you think there has to be reforms. >> correct. >> quickly, then one last question for you senator. >> okay. >> number one, we're going to solve this, there's -- we will get the fiscal reform done this year. i think the president -- i think we're going solve this. the two parties will solve this. i predict we'll have a meeting of republicans and democrats together. charles schumer is constructive on this issue. we're going to sit down together soon in the senate chamber and resolve this in a way democrats are not breaking the rules and we do it the way the senate as functioned and i think we're going to start the next year with a different spirit within congress. >> let me ask you, senator corker, we're overtime. one last question that may test that